STATEMENT: Leonard Jenoff
DATE: May 5, 2000
TIME: 6:39 p.m.
PLACE: Camden County Prosecutor's Office
IN REFERENCE TO: Homicide of Carol Neulander
INTERVIEWED BY: Senior Investigator Martin Devlin, Camden County Prosecutor's Office
IN PRESENCE OF: Detective Richard Rulbewsky, Cherry Hill Police Department; Francis Hartman, Attorney for Len Jenoff
TRANSCRIBED BY: Vicki L. Thompson, Camden County Prosecutor's Office
NOTE: This document has been edited. Names of those not connected to the murder, certain locations and the identities of some law enforcement agents have all been withheld. Expletives were also deleted.

Q: OK. And did you read a lot of books and periodicals and all on investigations and things like that or on covert operations or?

A: Yes and uh, I had, which I left out, I spent a couple of years, from like `88 to `91 working for a detective agency in Northfield, N.J.

Q: And what was their name?

A: Holmes High Tech.

Q: Where are they located again?

A: Northfield, New Jersey. The owner's name is NAME WITHHELD, who was a former New Jersey State Trooper.

Q: And exactly, do you know their address or phone number off hand?

A: No. No.

Q: OK.

A: He used a P.O. Box and uh, I spent a couple, and eventually he fired me cause I wasn't, I was always showing up drunk.

Q: OK. And is that the first time really in your life that you had like an investigative, besides you said so insurance work back in the end of the `60's, beginning of the `70's with insurance companies. Is that really the first time you did any real investigative work of any substance where you got paid for it? Was it?

A: I had been paid as an informant previous to that.

Q: By who?

A: Um, Baltimore City Police.

Q: And uh, you got money for this?

A: Yes.

Q: When was this, Mr. Jenoff?

A: In the mid `70's when my father and I were with Data Processing Institute.

Q: And uh, who in the Baltimore Police was paying you as an informant?

A: The Intelligence Unit.

Q: And who was the head of their Intelligence Unit at the time?

A: The head of it or the person I dealt with?

Q: Well, first of all the head of it?

A: Uh, Major uh, I can't recall, Major something, but I dealt with the NAME WITHHELD.

Q: Lieutenant NAME WITHHELD?

A: That's correct.

Q: OK. And what were they paying you to inform on?

A: Uh, I had uh, working where the Data Processing Institute office was, it was in the high-rise building.

Q: Right.

A: I had become very good friends with this lawyer and this Jewish guy and it fumed out the Jewish guy befriended me and we became friends and I didn't know at the time he was like running the Jewish...

Q: This is Senior Investigator Devlin, uh, we're on Side B of the interview with Len Jenoff. Mr. Jenoff, we were just talking about uh, any investigative types of jobs that you've had in your career, uh, jobs that you mentioned, I think, like in `69 or `70 you worked uh, in insurance as adjuster, then uh, you worked as an informant for the Baltimore Police Department. Correct?

A: That's correct.

Q: And then uh. at the end of the `80's you worked for an investigative firm?

A: Yes.

Q: OK. Is there, has there ever been any other investigative firms or anything that you've worked for? We know you haven't worked for the CIA. Is that correct?

A: That's correct.

Q: That's never happened ...

A: That's never happened.

Q: You, you told us that, that although you told virtually everybody in your life that you had. Is that correct?

A: That's correct.

Q: That that was a fantasy, a falsehood. And it was something born of your insecurities,right?

A: Absolutely.

Q: And your low self-esteem?

A: Absolutely.

Q: OK. Now, did this ever help you in any way telling people you were CIA?

A: Yes.

Q: OK. And how did it help you? I mean did it ever, did it ever get you jobs? Did it ever...

A: Yes, it did.

Q: It did? And it got you jobs with?

A: Holmes High Tech.

Q: Home Tie Tech?

A: Holmes High Tech.

Q: Oh, that's the company you told us about?

A: Right. Right.

Q: OK. You told them you were once uh, with the CIA?

A: That's correct.

Q: OK. And uh, and did it get you jobs in law firms working for as investigator for law firm and stuff like that. I believe you told me?

A: That's correct I, I uh, after I got sober, I was a couple months sober, I got a job with an investigative firm around here. Uh, well I was doing menial stuff because I was just sober and uh, when you first get sober, it takes a couple years for your like head to clear up. You're so screwed up from all that alcohol.

Q: OK.

A: So. I would do menial stuff like simple car accidents, statements, measuring uh, measuring the scenes of a car accident and mostly delivering subpoenas.

Q: OK. And uh, you told these people that you were an ex-CIA agent.

A: That's right.

Q: And you used that on your resume?

A: Yes, I created a pretty good resume.

Q: OK. And your resume was basically false also. I mean, obviously ...

A: Yes.

Q: You lied on your resume. OK. And uh, did you, did you tell this story so many times that, that the lie almost became a reality?

A: It was a reality. I became that person, I mean I'd even stopped using Leonard. It was Len Jenoff, former CIA. I believed it. I believed it. I believed and I got the whole world to believe it and when I started my own business around '95, I created this nice resume and every time I got a new law firm to hire me, I would add them on the law firm, you know, on my resume and it was like a mushroom, you know, to a point that I probably have seventy-five nice law firms that have been giving me work up until last week.