STATEMENT: Leonard Jenoff
DATE: May 5, 2000
TIME: 6:39 p.m.
PLACE: Camden County Prosecutor's Office
IN REFERENCE TO: Homicide of Carol Neulander
INTERVIEWED BY: Senior Investigator Martin Devlin, Camden County Prosecutor's Office
IN PRESENCE OF: Detective Richard Rulbewsky, Cherry Hill Police Department; Francis Hartman, Attorney for Len Jenoff
TRANSCRIBED BY: Vicki L. Thompson, Camden County Prosecutor's Office
NOTE: This document has been edited. Names of those not connected to the murder, certain locations and the identities of some law enforcement agents have all been withheld. Expletives were also deleted.
Q: Now this was investigated by the police?
A: Maple Shade Police. New Jersey State Police. Burlington County
Prosecutor and Department of Motor Vehicles.
Q: And the outcome for you was?
A: I was exonerated.
Q: OK. But this caused you problems uh, psychological problems?
A: Yes, it did.
Q: And uh ...
A: I went for counseling.
Q: And you went to counseling and you started drinking heavily?
A: Very heavily.
Q: OK. And during that time uh, after the accident when you were
drinking very heavily, uh, you said you had uh, trouble holding onto any
job?
A: I was drinking alcoholically from that day on.
Q: And would you consider yourself uh, out of control with your alcohol
problem?
A: Absolutely out of control.
Q: OK. Now how did this affect your marriage?
A: It made the marriage go bad because I was drunk every day and my
wife and young son saw that every day.
Q: OK. Now, did that eventually lead to, uh, the separation in 1991?
A: Yes, it did.
Q: OK. Uh, and during this separation, what happened? I mean when you
say we separated? What do you mean?
A: Well, my wife had come from a rather religious Jewish family.
Conservative, bordering on orthodox. Her family was like orthodox. My wife
was certainly conservative,leaning towards orthodox and in the Jewish
religion it's very much shameful or frowned upon if you become an
alcoholic or a drunk and I'm sure my previous, my ex-wife, you know was
getting her ears full from her parents and then her mother, and her
brother, she was always very close to her brother, NAME WITHHELD and uh, I
couldn't keep a job. I was always drunk. Uh, my son who was around 12, 13,
14 saw me always drunk and always throwing up. I tried selling cars,
couldn't keep a job. She had had enough and basically when she left me
said that I was just a very sick Jewish, well, many times she said I was a
Jewish drunk. It was, I became a disgrace to her and her family.
Q: So, she moved out and where did she move to?
A: She moved back to uh, LOCATION WITHHELD, Maryland, into her mother's
house. By that time her father had passed away and she and my son moved in with her mother.
Q: OK. Um, this left you pretty much alone?
A: I left me alone in our four bedroom house in Marlton and because of
my drinking and couldn't keep a job, I was not paying the mortgage and the
house went into foreclosure.
Q: OK. And she, did you say she went to Maryland?
A: Maryland. Maryland, to live with her mother.
Q: Uh, did you have visitation rights for your son?
A: Yes, I did.
Q: So, you did see your son at times?
A: Well, I had visitation rights, but I had no financial means.
Q: OK.
A: For awhile to really visit him.
Q: And how long was it that, what spell did you go without seeing your
son?
A: Originally, I think the first time was like eight to ten months.
Then it was very sporadic, uh, because when I hit bottom alcoholically
which was uh, officially December of `91, I had no car. I had a driver's
license, but no car and couldn't afford a car. I had no job. I was living
in my four bedroom house, but uh, you know, the shut the phone service off
and I was going to lose gas and electric and I was going to lose it.
Q: OK. And you say that's pretty much when you hit rock bottom?
A: Very much rock bottom. I lost, I lost all self, I had no self-esteem
cause my wife, my ex-wife just, I don't know if it was purposely, but
really put me down and made me lose all, all self respect, all, all
dignity and my Jewish identity. I lost that all like you're Jewish, how
can you become a drunk? That's with no disrespect, she would say that's
for the Gentiles. That's not for the Jews. And I couldn't help it. I
didn't want to become an alcoholic.
Q: Um hum.
A: And when she left me, I was like, I felt like the size of an ant. I
had no uh, I felt like worthless.
Q: OK. Now, when you reached rock bottom, right, or by December of `91,
which you categorized as hitting rock bottom ...
A: Um hum.
Q: Right? You were unemployed at that time? You said you couldn't hold
a job?
A: That's correct.
Q: OK. Now, leading up to 1991 from you adult life, your young adult
life, up to 1991,how old were you in `91?
A: Forty-six, I believe.
Q: Forty-six. Had you ever worked the Central Intelligence, for Central
Intelligence?
A: No, sir.
Q: You never, you've never received a pay check? You were never uh, uh,
an employee, a licensed employee of the CIA?
A: No, sir.
Q: OK. However, you told people that lie many, many, many times. Didn't
you?
A: Yes.
Q: OK. Why would you tell people something like that?
A: I had, I never had a life. I never had a career like my older
brother. I have a brother three and a half years older than me, you know,
immediately developed a career with insurance and got respected. Climbed
up the ladder. And I was always job to job. I, I felt always my whole
life, uh, worthless. I had no self-esteem, no uh, uh, self respect and I
created, I created this uh, I created this whole, like new life, like a
new identity for myself.
Q: A fantasy identity?
A: A fantasy identity and I was pretty good at doing that. I, I knew
the right like uh, buzzwords and I knew how to like even have
documentations or, that made it look like I was real.